Stockhub

Dan Cramling English (Q9201136)

Item Discussion
Revision as of 17:27, 1 Ocak 2023 by imported>TemirovBot (‎Added reference to claim: Property:P1087: 2,293)
(diff) ← Older revision | Latest revision (diff) | Newer revision → (diff)
Swedish chess player English
edit
Language Label Description Also known as
British English
No label defined
No description defined

    Statements

    instance of
    human
    1 reference
    imported from Wikimedia project
    Q206855 (Deleted Item)
    sex or gender
    male
    0 references
    occupation
    chess player English
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q65675433 (Deleted Item)
    ICCF player ID English
    450981
    retrieved
    4 April 2022
    place of birth
    Stockholm
    1 reference
    imported from Wikimedia project
    Q206855 (Deleted Item)
    date of birth
    5 February 1959
    1 reference
    imported from Wikimedia project
    Q206855 (Deleted Item)
    sport
    chess
    0 references
    given name
    Dan
    0 references
    Chessgames.com player ID English
    15510
    1 reference
    imported from Wikimedia project
    Q206855 (Deleted Item)
    title of chess person English
    Q752119 (Deleted Item)
    start time
    1982
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q27038151 (Deleted Item)
    365Chess.com player ID English
    Dan_Cramling
    1 reference
    imported from Wikimedia project
    Q206855 (Deleted Item)
    sibling
    Q202015 (Deleted Item)
    0 references
    ICCF player ID English
    450981
    0 references
    country for sport
    Sweden
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q27038151 (Deleted Item)
    ChessTempo.com player ID English
    42676
    0 references
    Google Knowledge Graph identifier
    /g/120svmk0
    0 references
    USCF player ID English
    15522705
    0 references
    ELO rating
    2,355
    point in time
    Ocak 1978
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108680205 (Deleted Item)
    2,355
    point in time
    July 1978
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108680205 (Deleted Item)
    2,355
    point in time
    Ocak 1979
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108680205 (Deleted Item)
    2,355
    point in time
    July 1979
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108680205 (Deleted Item)
    2,330
    point in time
    Ocak 1980
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108680205 (Deleted Item)
    2,330
    point in time
    July 1980
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108680205 (Deleted Item)
    2,380
    point in time
    Ocak 1981
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108680205 (Deleted Item)
    2,350
    point in time
    July 1981
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108680205 (Deleted Item)
    2,345
    point in time
    Ocak 1982
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108680205 (Deleted Item)
    2,375
    point in time
    July 1982
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108680205 (Deleted Item)
    2,415
    point in time
    Ocak 1983
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108680205 (Deleted Item)
    2,410
    point in time
    July 1983
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108680205 (Deleted Item)
    2,380
    point in time
    Ocak 1984
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108680205 (Deleted Item)
    2,380
    point in time
    July 1984
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108680205 (Deleted Item)
    2,400
    point in time
    Ocak 1985
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108680205 (Deleted Item)
    2,385
    point in time
    July 1985
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108680205 (Deleted Item)
    2,420
    point in time
    Ocak 1986
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108680205 (Deleted Item)
    2,415
    point in time
    July 1986
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108680205 (Deleted Item)
    2,420
    point in time
    Ocak 1987
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108680205 (Deleted Item)
    2,430
    point in time
    July 1987
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108680205 (Deleted Item)
    2,435
    point in time
    Ocak 1988
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108680205 (Deleted Item)
    2,435
    point in time
    July 1988
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108680205 (Deleted Item)
    2,430
    point in time
    Ocak 1989
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108680205 (Deleted Item)
    2,425
    point in time
    July 1989
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108680205 (Deleted Item)
    2,420
    point in time
    Ocak 1990
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108680205 (Deleted Item)
    2,420
    point in time
    July 1990
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108680205 (Deleted Item)
    2,420
    point in time
    Ocak 1991
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108680205 (Deleted Item)
    2,420
    point in time
    July 1991
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108680205 (Deleted Item)
    2,420
    point in time
    Ocak 1992
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108680205 (Deleted Item)
    2,435
    point in time
    July 1992
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108680205 (Deleted Item)
    2,420
    point in time
    Ocak 1993
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108680205 (Deleted Item)
    2,420
    point in time
    July 1993
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108680205 (Deleted Item)
    2,450
    point in time
    Ocak 1994
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108680205 (Deleted Item)
    2,445
    point in time
    July 1994
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108680205 (Deleted Item)
    2,445
    point in time
    Ocak 1995
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108680205 (Deleted Item)
    2,445
    point in time
    July 1995
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108680205 (Deleted Item)
    2,445
    point in time
    Ocak 1996
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108680205 (Deleted Item)
    2,445
    point in time
    July 1996
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108680205 (Deleted Item)
    2,445
    point in time
    Ocak 1997
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108680205 (Deleted Item)
    2,445
    point in time
    July 1997
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108680205 (Deleted Item)
    2,445
    point in time
    Ocak 1998
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108680205 (Deleted Item)
    2,425
    point in time
    July 1998
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108680205 (Deleted Item)
    2,425
    point in time
    Ocak 1999
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108680205 (Deleted Item)
    2,425
    point in time
    July 1999
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108680205 (Deleted Item)
    2,425
    point in time
    Ocak 2000
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108680205 (Deleted Item)
    2,425
    point in time
    July 2000
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108680205 (Deleted Item)
    2,425
    point in time
    October 2000
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108680205 (Deleted Item)
    2,425
    point in time
    Ocak 2001
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108679853 (Deleted Item)
    2,425
    point in time
    April 2001
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108679851 (Deleted Item)
    2,425
    point in time
    July 2001
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108679847 (Deleted Item)
    2,425
    point in time
    October 2001
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108679842 (Deleted Item)
    2,425
    point in time
    Ocak 2002
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108679836 (Deleted Item)
    2,425
    point in time
    April 2002
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108679828 (Deleted Item)
    2,425
    point in time
    July 2002
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108679808 (Deleted Item)
    2,425
    point in time
    October 2002
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108679799 (Deleted Item)
    2,425
    point in time
    Ocak 2003
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108679771 (Deleted Item)
    2,425
    point in time
    April 2003
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108679766 (Deleted Item)
    2,425
    point in time
    July 2003
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108679753 (Deleted Item)
    2,425
    point in time
    October 2003
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108679749 (Deleted Item)
    2,425
    point in time
    Ocak 2004
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108679740 (Deleted Item)
    2,425
    point in time
    April 2004
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108679658 (Deleted Item)
    2,425
    point in time
    July 2004
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108675473 (Deleted Item)
    2,425
    point in time
    October 2004
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108675461 (Deleted Item)
    2,425
    point in time
    Ocak 2005
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108675449 (Deleted Item)
    2,425
    point in time
    April 2005
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108675447 (Deleted Item)
    2,425
    point in time
    July 2005
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108675444 (Deleted Item)
    2,425
    point in time
    October 2005
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108675440 (Deleted Item)
    2,425
    point in time
    Ocak 2006
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108675420 (Deleted Item)
    2,425
    point in time
    April 2006
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108675413 (Deleted Item)
    2,425
    point in time
    July 2006
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108675408 (Deleted Item)
    2,425
    point in time
    October 2006
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108675384 (Deleted Item)
    2,425
    point in time
    Ocak 2007
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108675345 (Deleted Item)
    2,425
    point in time
    April 2007
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108675337 (Deleted Item)
    2,425
    point in time
    July 2007
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108675331 (Deleted Item)
    2,425
    point in time
    October 2007
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108675326 (Deleted Item)
    2,425
    point in time
    Ocak 2008
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108675318 (Deleted Item)
    2,399
    point in time
    April 2008
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108675307 (Deleted Item)
    2,399
    point in time
    July 2008
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108675301 (Deleted Item)
    2,399
    point in time
    October 2008
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108675281 (Deleted Item)
    2,399
    point in time
    Ocak 2009
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108675258 (Deleted Item)
    2,409
    point in time
    April 2009
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108675252 (Deleted Item)
    2,409
    point in time
    July 2009
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108675244 (Deleted Item)
    2,408
    point in time
    September 2009
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108675235 (Deleted Item)
    2,408
    point in time
    November 2009
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108675232 (Deleted Item)
    2,408
    point in time
    Ocak 2010
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108675217 (Deleted Item)
    2,401
    point in time
    March 2010
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108675209 (Deleted Item)
    2,404
    point in time
    Mayıs 2010
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108675201 (Deleted Item)
    2,404
    point in time
    July 2010
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108675198 (Deleted Item)
    2,403
    point in time
    September 2010
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108675191 (Deleted Item)
    2,394
    point in time
    November 2010
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108675186 (Deleted Item)
    2,394
    point in time
    Ocak 2011
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108675173 (Deleted Item)
    2,398
    point in time
    March 2011
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108675164 (Deleted Item)
    2,395
    point in time
    Mayıs 2011
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108675158 (Deleted Item)
    2,395
    point in time
    July 2011
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108675136 (Deleted Item)
    2,392
    point in time
    September 2011
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108675130 (Deleted Item)
    2,392
    point in time
    November 2011
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108675057 (Deleted Item)
    2,392
    point in time
    Ocak 2012
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108675031 (Deleted Item)
    2,354
    point in time
    March 2012
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108675024 (Deleted Item)
    2,356
    point in time
    Mayıs 2012
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108675017 (Deleted Item)
    2,356
    point in time
    July 2012
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108675013 (Deleted Item)
    2,360
    point in time
    August 2012
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108675003 (Deleted Item)
    2,360
    point in time
    September 2012
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108674996 (Deleted Item)
    2,360
    point in time
    October 2012
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108674993 (Deleted Item)
    2,370
    point in time
    November 2012
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108674987 (Deleted Item)
    2,370
    point in time
    December 2012
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108674985 (Deleted Item)
    2,370
    point in time
    Ocak 2013
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108674863 (Deleted Item)
    2,370
    point in time
    February 2013
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108674853 (Deleted Item)
    2,370
    point in time
    March 2013
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108674837 (Deleted Item)
    2,371
    point in time
    April 2013
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108674818 (Deleted Item)
    2,371
    point in time
    Mayıs 2013
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108674816 (Deleted Item)
    2,371
    point in time
    Haziran 2013
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108674815 (Deleted Item)
    2,371
    point in time
    July 2013
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108674812 (Deleted Item)
    2,368
    point in time
    August 2013
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108674807 (Deleted Item)
    2,368
    point in time
    September 2013
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108674804 (Deleted Item)
    2,368
    point in time
    October 2013
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108674803 (Deleted Item)
    2,368
    point in time
    November 2013
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108674800 (Deleted Item)
    2,361
    point in time
    December 2013
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108674779 (Deleted Item)
    2,361
    point in time
    Ocak 2014
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108668010 (Deleted Item)
    2,361
    point in time
    February 2014
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108667965 (Deleted Item)
    2,354
    point in time
    March 2014
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108667943 (Deleted Item)
    2,354
    point in time
    April 2014
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108667937 (Deleted Item)
    2,354
    point in time
    Mayıs 2014
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108664483 (Deleted Item)
    2,354
    point in time
    Haziran 2014
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108664461 (Deleted Item)
    2,354
    point in time
    July 2014
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108664455 (Deleted Item)
    2,354
    point in time
    August 2014
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108664451 (Deleted Item)
    2,354
    point in time
    September 2014
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108664434 (Deleted Item)
    2,354
    point in time
    October 2014
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108664426 (Deleted Item)
    2,354
    point in time
    November 2014
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108664413 (Deleted Item)
    2,354
    point in time
    December 2014
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108664405 (Deleted Item)
    2,354
    point in time
    Ocak 2015
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108664364 (Deleted Item)
    2,354
    point in time
    February 2015
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108664360 (Deleted Item)
    2,354
    point in time
    March 2015
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108664348 (Deleted Item)
    2,354
    point in time
    April 2015
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108664315 (Deleted Item)
    2,354
    point in time
    Mayıs 2015
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108664296 (Deleted Item)
    2,354
    point in time
    Haziran 2015
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108664274 (Deleted Item)
    2,354
    point in time
    July 2015
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108664151 (Deleted Item)
    2,354
    point in time
    August 2015
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108664129 (Deleted Item)
    2,354
    point in time
    September 2015
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108664103 (Deleted Item)
    2,354
    point in time
    October 2015
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108664084 (Deleted Item)
    2,354
    point in time
    November 2015
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108664069 (Deleted Item)
    2,354
    point in time
    December 2015
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108664062 (Deleted Item)
    2,354
    point in time
    Ocak 2016
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108664041 (Deleted Item)
    2,354
    point in time
    February 2016
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108664035 (Deleted Item)
    2,354
    point in time
    March 2016
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108664012 (Deleted Item)
    2,354
    point in time
    April 2016
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108663928 (Deleted Item)
    2,354
    point in time
    Mayıs 2016
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108663922 (Deleted Item)
    2,367
    point in time
    Haziran 2016
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108663915 (Deleted Item)
    2,367
    point in time
    July 2016
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108663913 (Deleted Item)
    2,367
    point in time
    August 2016
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108663894 (Deleted Item)
    2,367
    point in time
    September 2016
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108663888 (Deleted Item)
    2,367
    point in time
    October 2016
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108663876 (Deleted Item)
    2,364
    point in time
    November 2016
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108663871 (Deleted Item)
    2,364
    point in time
    December 2016
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108663859 (Deleted Item)
    2,364
    point in time
    Ocak 2017
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108663800 (Deleted Item)
    2,364
    point in time
    February 2017
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108663765 (Deleted Item)
    2,364
    point in time
    March 2017
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108663743 (Deleted Item)
    2,377
    point in time
    April 2017
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108663521 (Deleted Item)
    2,377
    point in time
    Mayıs 2017
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108663418 (Deleted Item)
    2,377
    point in time
    Haziran 2017
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108663015 (Deleted Item)
    2,377
    point in time
    July 2017
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108663010 (Deleted Item)
    2,381
    point in time
    August 2017
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108662966 (Deleted Item)
    2,381
    point in time
    September 2017
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108662950 (Deleted Item)
    2,383
    point in time
    October 2017
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108662638 (Deleted Item)
    2,369
    point in time
    November 2017
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108662631 (Deleted Item)
    2,361
    point in time
    December 2017
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108662622 (Deleted Item)
    2,364
    point in time
    Ocak 2018
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108661566 (Deleted Item)
    2,364
    point in time
    February 2018
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108661550 (Deleted Item)
    2,361
    point in time
    March 2018
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108661537 (Deleted Item)
    2,355
    point in time
    April 2018
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108661537 (Deleted Item)
    2,355
    point in time
    Mayıs 2018
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108661528 (Deleted Item)
    2,355
    point in time
    Haziran 2018
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108661384 (Deleted Item)
    2,355
    point in time
    July 2018
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108661381 (Deleted Item)
    2,358
    point in time
    August 2018
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108661376 (Deleted Item)
    2,358
    point in time
    September 2018
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108661358 (Deleted Item)
    2,358
    point in time
    October 2018
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108661353 (Deleted Item)
    2,341
    point in time
    November 2018
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108661347 (Deleted Item)
    2,331
    point in time
    December 2018
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108661341 (Deleted Item)
    2,329
    point in time
    Ocak 2019
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108661334 (Deleted Item)
    2,329
    point in time
    February 2019
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108661327 (Deleted Item)
    2,322
    point in time
    March 2019
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108569391 (Deleted Item)
    2,324
    point in time
    April 2019
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108555091 (Deleted Item)
    2,321
    point in time
    Mayıs 2019
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108554667 (Deleted Item)
    2,321
    point in time
    Haziran 2019
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108527434 (Deleted Item)
    2,321
    point in time
    July 2019
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108524976 (Deleted Item)
    2,322
    point in time
    August 2019
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108400499 (Deleted Item)
    2,322
    point in time
    September 2019
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108391015 (Deleted Item)
    2,314
    point in time
    October 2019
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108385196 (Deleted Item)
    2,313
    point in time
    November 2019
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108384737 (Deleted Item)
    2,295
    point in time
    December 2019
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108368570 (Deleted Item)
    2,296
    point in time
    Ocak 2020
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108350659 (Deleted Item)
    2,290
    point in time
    February 2020
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108335738 (Deleted Item)
    2,290
    point in time
    March 2020
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108319093 (Deleted Item)
    2,300
    point in time
    April 2020
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108316785 (Deleted Item)
    2,295
    point in time
    Mayıs 2020
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108311346 (Deleted Item)
    2,295
    point in time
    Haziran 2020
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108310327 (Deleted Item)
    2,295
    point in time
    July 2020
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108309633 (Deleted Item)
    2,295
    point in time
    August 2020
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108309168 (Deleted Item)
    2,295
    point in time
    September 2020
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108308820 (Deleted Item)
    2,295
    point in time
    October 2020
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108307982 (Deleted Item)
    2,292
    point in time
    November 2020
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108306740 (Deleted Item)
    2,292
    point in time
    December 2020
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108306587 (Deleted Item)
    2,292
    point in time
    Ocak 2021
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108305991 (Deleted Item)
    2,292
    point in time
    February 2021
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108305693 (Deleted Item)
    2,292
    point in time
    March 2021
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q108305117 (Deleted Item)
    2,285
    point in time
    October 2021
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q109388946 (Deleted Item)
    2,294
    point in time
    November 2021
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q109921567 (Deleted Item)
    2,290
    point in time
    December 2021
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q110354329 (Deleted Item)
    2,300
    point in time
    March 2022
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q111459131 (Deleted Item)
    2,299
    point in time
    April 2022
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q111792319 (Deleted Item)
    2,294
    point in time
    Mayıs 2022
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q112195298 (Deleted Item)
    2,289
    point in time
    September 2022
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q114344908 (Deleted Item)
    2,296
    point in time
    October 2022
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q114980991 (Deleted Item)
    2,298
    point in time
    November 2022
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q115553029 (Deleted Item)
    2,293
    point in time
    Ocak 2023
    1 reference
    stated in
    Q115946298 (Deleted Item)
    Chess.com member ID English
    danatcramlingdotse
    0 references
    Chess.com player ID English
    dan-cramling
    0 references
    Geni.com profile ID
    6000000082016108068
    0 references
     
    Retrieved from ‘https://stockhub.co/index.php?title=Item:Q9201136&oldid=6976535’